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Myth #3
Conservation Is a "Personal Virtue"

By now it should be clear not only that energy independence is prohibitively costly, but that the saner objective—energy security—won't be met through some frantic search for a fuel to replace oil, but by finding ways to do without liquid fuel, most probably through massive increases in energy efficiency.

This isn't a popular idea with Dick Cheney, who before 9/11 famously said that "conservation may be a sign of personal virtue, but it is not a sufficient basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy." Nor among traditional energy players, who desperately want to find something to sell us if oil becomes untenable—and don't really care if that something is hydrogen or ethanol or pig manure. But for the rest of us, the logic of conservation is pretty hard to argue with. Better energy efficiency is one of the fastest ways to reduce not only energy use, but pollution and greenhouse gas emissions: According to a new study by McKinsey & Company, if the United States aggressively adopted more efficient cars, factories, homes, and other infrastructure, our CO2 emissions could be 28 percent below 2005 levels by 2030. And saving energy is almost always cheaper than making it: There is far more oil to be "found" in Detroit by designing more fuel-efficient cars than could ever be pumped out of anwr. And because transportation is the biggest user of oil—accounting for 7 of every 10 barrels we burn—any significant reduction in the sector's appetite has massive ramifications. Even the relatively unambitious 2007 energy bill, which raises fuel-economy standards from 25 mpg to 35 mpg by 2020, would save 3.6 million barrels a day by 2030. And if we persuaded carmakers to switch to plug-in hybrids, we could cut our oil demand by a staggering 9 million barrels a day, about 70 percent of our current imports.

Such a shift would impose massive new demand on an electric grid already struggling to meet need, but plug-in hybrids actually stretch the grid's existing capacity. Charged up at night, when power demand (and thus prices) are low, plug-in hybrids exploit the grid's large volume of unused (and, until now, unusable) capacity. Such "load balancing" would let power companies run their plants around the clock (vastly more cost-effective than idling plants at night and revving them up at dawn); as important, it would substantially boost the grid's overall output. According to the Department of Energy, with such load balancing, America's existing power system could meet current power demands and generate enough additional electricity to run almost three-quarters of its car and light-truck fleet. That alone would be enough to drop oil consumption by 6.5 million barrels a day, or nearly a third of America's current demand.

Granted, this switch to electric-powered cars wouldn't be free. Seventy percent of America's electricity is made from high-carbon fuels like natural gas and especially coal, which is why the power sector emits 40 percent of all U.S. carbon emissions. Just 8.4 percent comes from renewable sources, and most of that is environmentally dubious hydroelectric; wind, solar, geothermal, and biomass together supply 2.4 percent, and despite rapid growth, their share of the power market will remain small for decades. Even so, an electric or plug-in hybrid fleet is still probably the most environmentally plausible path away from oil. Why? Because kilowatt for kilowatt, turning fossil fuels into electricity in massive centralized power plants and then putting that juice into car batteries is more efficient than burning fossil fuels directly in internal combustion engines, and thus generates fewer CO2 emissions per mile traveled. (Our existing fleet generates a third of America's CO2 emissions.) The doe found that replacing three-quarters of the U.S. fleet with plug-in hybrids would cut vehicle CO2 emissions by 27 percent nationwide—40 percent or more if the country's power system were upgraded to match California's low-carbon grid. And once the new fleet is in place, there is nothing stopping us from upgrading our power sources to truly renewable systems.

Federal Funding for Renewable-Energy R&D
$ millions, in 2005 dollars

Renewable-Energy R&D

Seeing Green
Where the clean-energy money is—and isn't

Dept. of Energy solar budget, 2008: $168 million

Venture capital investment in solar, 2006: $264 million

Dept. of Energy renewable-energy budget, 2008: $1.7 billion

Venture capital investment in renewable energy, 2006: $2.4 billion

Federal ethanol subsidies, 2006: $6 billion

Federal coal subsidies, 2006: $8 billion

Federal oil and gas subsidies, 2006: $39 billion

Worldwide investment in renewable energy, 2007: $71 billion

Myth #4
We Can Go It Alone

Given America's reliance on imported oil, it seems safe to assume that if we succeeded in getting such dramatic reductions, whatever sacrifices we'd made would be more than compensated for by our new immunity to the nastiness of world oil markets. Let Saudi Arabia cut its production. Let Hugo Chávez sell his oil to China. Such maneuvers no longer matter to Fortress America.

And yet, no country can really hope to improve its energy security by acting alone. True, cutting our own oil use would bring great things here at home, everything from cleaner air and water to lower noise pollution. But we'd be surprised by how little our domestic reductions changed the rest of the world—or improved our overall energy security.

The first problem, once again, is the small-planet nature of energy. America may be the biggest user of oil, but the price we pay is determined by global demand, and demand is being driven largely by booming Asia, which is only too happy to burn any barrel we manage to conserve or replace. Second, any shift to alternatives or better efficiency will take years and perhaps decades to implement. The U.S. car fleet, for example, turns over at a rate of just eight percent a year. That's as fast as consumers can afford to buy new cars and manufacturers can afford to make them, which means that—even in a fantasy scenario where the cars were already designed, the factories retooled, and the workers retrained—it would still take 12 years to deploy a greener fleet.

Most forecasts fail to acknowledge how slowly such changes could actually occur. Sure, if the United States could cut its oil consumption overnight by 9 million barrels, or 6.5 million barrels, or even 3.6 million barrels, it would have a staggering impact on oil prices. But barring a global depression, demand won't ever drop so rapidly; instead, our demand reductions will be incremental and thus effectively canceled out by the expected demand growth in other, less efficiency-minded countries like China. Berkeley's Borenstein, for example, estimates that the 3.6 million barrels the United States would save by 2030 under the 2007 energy bill will be more than offset by growth in demand elsewhere. Put another way, we could all squeeze into smaller cars and still be paying $4 for a gallon of gasoline.

To be sure, energy security isn't defined solely by cheap energy, and in fact, a great many enviros and energy wonks like oil at $100 a barrel, as it seems to be the only thing keeping more of us from buying Hummers. But high prices are killing our other energy-security objectives. High prices mean that money is still flowing into rogue states. High oil prices also imply tight oil markets, prone to massive price swings that are painful for consumers and make it virtually impossible for companies and governments to forecast their future energy costs—and so correctly gauge how much to invest in next-generation energy technologies. And no matter how clean and carbon free the United States becomes, if China and India are still burning massive volumes of oil we haven't done much to improve long-term security of any kind.

The only way to achieve real energy security is to reengineer not just our energy economy but that of the entire world. Oil prices won't fall, evil regimes won't be bankrupt, and sustainability won't be possible—until global oil demand is slowed. And outside of an economic meltdown, the only way it can be is if the tools we deploy to improve our own security can be somehow exported to other countries, and especially developing countries.

Energy globalism doesn't mean that every new energy gadget or fuel we invent has to work in Beijing or Burkina Faso. It does, however, suggest that our current energy strategy, tailored primarily to our own markets and our own technical capabilities, will be next to useless in an energy economy that is increasingly global—and that at least some of our energy investments should be compatible with regions where natural resources are strained, governments are poor, and consumers don't have access to home-equity lines of credit.

Myth #5
Some Geek in Silicon Valley Will Fix the Problem

So, what kinds of technologies would qualify under this more global strategy? Although corn and even cane ethanol are dubious—arable land in most of the developing world is already far too scarce—cellulosic ethanol has definite potential. Plug-in hybrids are probably too expensive for most Third World consumers, but have possibilities in the megacities of Asia and Latin America.

In the near term, however, the most practical energy export will be efficiency. China is so woefully inefficient that its economy uses 4.5 times as much energy as the United States for every dollar of output. This disparity explains why China is the world's second-biggest energy guzzler, but also why selling China more efficient technologies—cars, to be sure, but also better designs for houses, buildings, and industrial processes—could have a huge impact on global energy use and emissions.

As a bonus, such exports would likely be highly profitable. Japan, whose economy is nine times as energy efficient as China's, sees enormous economic and diplomatic opportunities selling its expertise to the Chinese, and America could tap into those opportunities as well—provided technologies with export potential get the kind of R&D support they need. Yet this isn't assured. You may have read that the volume of venture capital flowing into energy-technology companies is at a record high. But much of this capital is flowing into known technologies with rapid and assured payoffs—such as corn ethanol—instead of more speculative, but potentially more useful, technologies like cellulosic ethanol.

Once upon a time, America compensated for investor reluctance with gobs of federal money. But though President Bush routinely promises to spend more on alternative energy, little new money has appeared; federal spending on solar research, for example, is well short of that in the Clinton years, and the $148 million Bush pledged for solar back in 2006 was, in inflation-adjusted terms, less than half of what we spent annually in the 1970s. Other technologies suffer as well. Senator Richard Lugar, an Indiana Republican who has long argued for a global approach to energy security, notes that despite Bush's stated support for cellulosic ethanol, the Energy Department's "glacial implementation" of R&D loan guarantees has turned off potential investors. "The project is moving forward," Lugar says, "but critical time was lost."

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Is Mother Jones getting senile? The info on biodiesel in the May/June issue on page 52 (Justin Elliott's chart, "your mileage may vary") is ridiculously wrong. My '98 TDI Beetle that I bought in 2003 gets 45 mpg (the chart gives the range of 15-32 mpg). I drove it from the used car for my 1st fill up of b100. The chart says "100% BD requires engine conversion". That's pure BS. Then it states that "Burning down a rain forest to produce palm biodiesel is a bad idea - who knew?" Very clever. Of course that's a bad idea. Has he been eating too many hamburgers from the rain forests that have been cleared for animal feed? Has he considered jatropha or algae? How about the VW Polo (70 mpg) or the VW Lupo (80 mpg)? Oh, that's right, we can't buy those in the US...
Posted by:Bruce WilkinApril 19, 2008 5:39:21 AMRespond ^
Your graphic on page two tells the tale. The amount budgeted for Solar Energy R&D would barely cover the printing costs of the reports that are most likely stacked in the corner of some DC restroom collecting dust and weevils. A retooling of essential infrastructure doesn't have to take a century. Take the trillion we're vaporizing in the Persian Gulf and apply it stateside. But that's not going to happen, is it? Might as well face it, we're addicted to oil, and we're fixing to mainline it right into the grave. Wave a monster truck under the nose of the average rugged American Unabomber and we'll show you what petro-whores we truly are. Energy Independence is just our junkie's excuse.
Posted by:JimApril 20, 2008 4:09:45 PMRespond ^
You clearly don't know much about hydrogen. Statements like "a gallon of hydrogen contains nearly 25 percent less energy than was consumed producing it" completely undermine your credibility. What you haven't understood is that hydrogen is just a means of transporting energy, not a source of energy. There just isn't any hydrogen in the ground - we can't drill it and burn it like oil, coal or gas. We have to make it - typically using electricity. Of course there's less energy in the hydrogen than it cost to make the stuff - any high school science student should be able to tell you that all energy conversion involves substantial loss. Hydrogen is interesting only as a clean fuel for cars etc. You still have the problem of generating the electricity to make it.
Posted by:Jonathan SApril 22, 2008 5:42:19 AMRespond ^
"Myth #1
Energy Independence Is Good"
Energy dependence is good. Our dependence upon overseas oil is empowering the military-industrial complex to meddle in the affairs of oil-producing countries. We need to make their continued existence more difficult. They are creating terrorists by their meddling.

"Myth #2
Ethanol Will Set Us Free"
Cellulosic ethanol may be useful for fueling farm implements or mass transit but if we try to fuel the transportation status quo this way the results will be environmentally disastrous.

"Myth #3
Conservation Is a "'Personal Virtue'"
I don't see how anyone could argue with this - other than because Dick Cheney said it. The author doesn't seem to address this "myth" at all. He just goes off on some pitch about electric cars (ignoring the resources consumed in their manufacture) without even considering the possibility that most automobile use is unnecessary. Aside from their geopolitical and environmental effects, cars ruin cities, encourage sprawl and contribute to the obesity epidemic. One hundred years or so ago everybody got along without them.

"Myth #4
We Can Go It Alone"
The author assumes that other countries don't have responsible people in them who would be empowered by our actions to conserve energy, if we take them. China has several carbon-neutral cities under construction or in the planning stages. There would be more if there was credible evidence that the countries that consume most of the oil - like the US - demonstrated the will to cut back. As it is, at budget time people who want to conserve energy in developing nations aren't taken seriously since we refuse to do anything about our consumption.

"Myth #5
Some Geek in Silicon Valley Will Fix the Problem"
Undeniably a myth. But the author continues his pitch for electric cars while continuing to insist that people just have to drive around in their own personal automobiles.

"Myth #6
Cut Demand and the Rest Will Follow"
There is a lot of truth in this "myth."

"Myth #7
Once Bush Is Gone, Change Will Come"
What a laugh!
Posted by:BobApril 22, 2008 12:27:46 PMRespond ^
Well, you got Myth #7 right, anyway. As for the rest, you couldn't be more of a cheerleader for globalism and consumerism if you tried.
"solar and wind ...are decades away from being meaningful oil replacements." Christ, I've been hearing that since I was a little kid, and I'm in my 40's.
As "Jim" pointed out in his comment, the budget for solar is a joke, as it always has been. Why's this? Because the top players in the MIC can't put a meter on the Sun, of course. And our government is run by agents of those top players.
But don't go into anything like that; it's just too paranoid. Stick to your pro-big business, pro-MIC chant ("what America should be striving for isn't energy independence, but energy security" -- how much are the folks at Halliburton, KBR, General Dynamics, and all the rest, paying you?), and you'll have a long, illustrious career in "journalism". Nice work if you can get it.
Posted by:Dave JApril 22, 2008 12:32:41 PMRespond ^
Obvious the first sentence should read, "Energy indepedence IS good."
Posted by:BobApril 22, 2008 4:46:17 PMRespond ^
Wow...for such a well-reasoned article, the author is taking some not-so-well-reasoned blows!

The refreshing part of this article is the understanding that energy production, transportation, and use is a very complex model. There is no one "silver bullet" to address $118/barrel oil. Because oil is transportable, it is a commodity on the world market. I would bet a lot this magazine’s readers have small businesses – do you sell your product/service below market prices? You don’t? If you owned an oil well, would you sell your oil for anything less than the market bid? No, you would not. And the bidders for every barrel of oil pumped from the ground are not just local, but world-wide. Consider the oil market like a eBay for the world.

This is NOT a Bush generated issue and as such, Bush or Obama or Hillary will not solve it alone. In fact, a nation cannot solve this alone. As stated, China is the world’s worst polluter. Wear wool sweaters if you like, but I have to tell you, the Chinese do not care.

Conversion to electric cars is a good idea for the reasons stated. However, the number of windmills and solar cells needed to charge our fleet of cars and trucks would create in itself an environmental disaster. Both have very large footprints. Windmills are not too kind to migrating birds and they create significant noise. Hydro is limited and in fact in decline as federal lawsuits brought by indigenous peoples are forcing the destruction of dams in the Pacific Northwest. Burn some more coal? How about burning clean natural gas, which is also limited in quantity - and have you noticed that home heating NG prices have skyrocketed? Why? Because you are competing for the same NG electric utilities are burning. Why are the electric utilities sucking up all the NG? Because natural gas plants can be built in a short time frame (relatively), with few opportunities for interveners to halt construction using frivolous lawsuits, providing the utility and its investors some certainty of a return on their investment. Activism can have unintended consequences.

Anyone can rant and rave. That takes no reasoning or rational thought at all. At least this author put some thought into their writings.

Not so simple, is it?
Posted by:Barry WallaceApril 22, 2008 11:45:55 PMRespond ^
Well, Barry. It's good to hear the voice of reason making remarks like, "Conversion to electric cars is a good idea ... However, the number of windmills and solar cells needed to charge our fleet of cars and trucks would create in itself an environmental disaster."

Is that not a contradiction? Does a contradiction not prove the assumptions made to arrive at it wrong? Or are you saying that conversion to electric cars i a good idea even though it would create an environmental disaster?

And then we have, "Wear wool sweaters if you like, but I have to tell you, the Chinese do not care." Over a billion Chinese making up their minds, changing their minds and competing with one another for decision-making powers (there is a competition even if it's not democratic) and we're supposed to forget about conservation because of your assurance that they all just don't care. This kind of cynicism is a self-fulfilling prophecy if adopted by enough people. If we refuse to address our excessive resource consumption because we assume that others don't care then they won't.
Posted by:BobApril 23, 2008 7:22:34 AMRespond ^
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Here's what Paul Craig Roberts won't tell you, for fear of the PC Police:

Oil is payoff for the West's efforts at providing PROXY COMBATANTS for Israel--for protecting Israel from expanding, encircling Islamic Arabism; a Jewish nation-state having supporters throughout the West willing to destroy the entirety of Western civilization for Israel's sake.

That's the gut-wrenching truth of why Western democracies are sacrificing blood and treasury in the Middle East; especially the U.S., which has enough off-shore and on-land oil reserves to last 300 years at her present rate of consumption, and which reserves were PURPOSELY capped and/or not drilled because Israel's supporters poured millions of dollars into ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT groups' coffers, to work at
keeping America from oil/energy independence and tied to Israel's interests in the Middle East. That's the truth you'll NEVER see nor hear reported in Western mainstream news media, because Israel's supporters control what's fit to be said or printed about why the West wars with Islamic Arabism.

Regarding this oil-related food crisis, here's an excerpt from my essay, "The NAFTA Debacle":

“Because many nations’ agricultural production will decline under NAFTA and GATT, in becoming dependent on the
more productive nations’ capacity to export cheaper product to them, they’ll become gravely vulnerable to any of
the exporting nations’ food-production declines, possibly resulting from bad weather conditions or bad economies. ‘Free trade’ in food sets up a looming catastrophe (read my essay, GATT: Ubiquitous Treason)…Wouldn’t such worldwide economic interdependence necessarily set the stage for a worldwide economic collapse should any one nation seriously falter? Such a worldwide collapse would make America’s Great Depression appear like good times. Why aren’t the NAFTA and GATT crafters arguing for more economic independence for nations - for rugged individualism among nations – rather than building this One World interdependency that their brand of ‘free trade’ necessarily engenders?”


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Posted by:DeaconApril 23, 2008 12:49:23 PMRespond ^
Did you read the article or just the headlines?!
Posted by:PTApril 23, 2008 12:54:03 PMRespond ^
Natural Gas is a high carbon fuel - false. It has one carbon to four hydrogen atoms. Making the it the least carbon bearing of all carbon bearing fuels possible. Look towards Diesel for the high carbon end of the spectrum.

Your comments on electric grid loading also a great myth. This has been well researched, and has been found to not be a problem. As peole typically work during the day, and can't charge their cars in their employers's parking lot. So electric cars are charged at night, while people sleep, and the sun and AC load are down.

Using Methane as a vehicle caried transporation fuel would be a big step backwards, however. As heating applications are 3 to 4 times more efficiency using natural gas than a car can be today. And electricity production from Methane is at least twice as effient.
Posted by:doneeApril 23, 2008 4:58:58 PMRespond ^
Part of the myth here is that you even NEED energy, at least the way we get it and use it now. Once upon a time, about 60 years ago, you had 'a fireplace', and 'coal oil lanterns'. If you were privileged, you had 'an icebox'. Up-town, there. Then came the rural electrification thing, and now everyone pays to keep those ScottishPower(or whatever) share prices high. The US economy, or Con Me, or Con Game, is being manipulated like you wouldn't believe. I call it 'revenge economics'.
We've bought oil for decades from countries that maybe really don't like us, if it comese right down to it, and now we've given them the economic means to blank around with the commodities market and sell their own propaganda and generally snowjob us like there's no tomorrow, and some backers of this administration are, in my opinion, in on the deal, and laughing all the way to the bank, arm-in-arm with the deed-holders of the oilfields. In the midst of all of this, you're still expected at work, Monday morning, which is 33(or so) miles from your home. And, if the only way you can afford the prices that they set for these commodities is to take out more credit, congratulations, you're well on your way to becoming an indentured servant for life. Which is right where they want us. Don't buy a word of it, it's all bunk. Energy independence scares the holy hell out of em, because if 'consumers' get an 'out' from this little game, then the gamesters themselves might have to find the dreaded 'day job' themselves, and it just gets ugly from there, can't have royalty punching the clock and stuff...just not fitting. Or, maybe it IS fitting...
Posted by:BertApril 23, 2008 6:59:01 PMRespond ^
I don't believe the author knows how long it will take to get wind power and solar ramped up to carry our auto addiction, but i would hope not decades.
If it's decades, we're dead.
The most important place to save energy is where use creates CO2. That would be transportation. Only 9.9% of our warming gases come from the highway, according to the MJ chart--same as housing (which i presume is for heating.)
But this is where we can drop the greatest. People are already accustomed to traffic rules, and ruling out gas hogs should be easy. In fact, all autos could be electric by mandate in a few years. We will still need to figure out how to manage trucking--maybe by making all of it local, from farm town stations by electric trains to big city market stations.
Homes still need to have heat.
Our grid has to change to accomodate direct current. and many habits have to change also. mainly, the gas hog party has to come to an end.
I can see it being done within one decade not several.
Also, there is a chart, on Pg 52?, that shows ethanol at 85% of the mix. It is the other way around: gas is at 85.
whoops i see that has been addressed already.
Posted by:jimmy mankindApril 23, 2008 7:33:31 PMRespond ^
Barry, about the birds.
There are various shapes that would warn the one-track minded birds. They are hungry and i now they have been hunting with both eyes on the ground for eons, but we can make propellers whistle and toot and bark like a dog. Imagine you were a flying eagle and you were about to flyinto a flying dog...mightn't you raise your eyes a bit? The idea is we got to find a way to use the wind first, then we'll save the eagles.
Sheees, man. Get your priorities in order. We will probably need a lot of the remaining oil to even build the electric system in its entirety.
Also, some windmills are almost cylindrical in shape. They don't turn into the wind--they spin no matter where it comes from.
Posted by:jimmy mankindApril 23, 2008 7:44:34 PMRespond ^
One major aspect of energy conservation that is missing from this essay and from the energy consumption and "Peak Oil" discussion in general is the development of and gradual conversion to a reliable and energy efficient mass transit system like the ones presently enjoyed by the inhabitants of many major cities around the world. As John Q. Citizen living in the hinterland becomes unable to afford the luxury of his personal auto yet still has a need to travel significant distance to and from his place of employment and to shop and visit friends and relatives; he will become much more willing to pay for and support a mass transit system for his rural or suburban area. Public money spent for the development of these systems and the infrastructure that they depend on would be money well spent. Safe and energy efficient rapid mass transit systems will become a necessity whether we like it or not, and the sooner we accept this fact as a reality and begin to prepare for it and all that it brings with it, the better off we will all be. Low friction electric trains will probably be the way most Americans cover significant distances within the next thirty years. Local travel will likely be generally by bike, foot or electric car.

I recently read a quote from an Arab sheik that seemed to sum it all up quite nicely. He said "My father rode a camel, I drive a Rolls Royce, my son pilots a jet, his son will ride a camel." THT
Posted by:Tom Tvedten MDApril 23, 2008 7:56:56 PMRespond ^
"Wind takes up vast amounts of land" How many acres of rooftops of buildings already sticking up there in the windy levels of air are there in the country? When are we going to get smart and start utilizing what we have already. Nice garden space up there too, in between the struts of the wind generators.
Think think!
We don't need energy independence per se we need effeciency.
Posted by:Ronald MacQuarrieApril 23, 2008 8:18:46 PMRespond ^
I have to agree with many of comments, this author gives an odd and outdated view of these issues. For example both First Solar and Nanosolar are in production of thin-film PV materials, the military is building solar arrays, thousands of megawatts are being generated by wind farms in Texas alone annually. Jim Kramer on Mad Money just talked tonight about all the profit-potential in green companies and a sail for freighters just showed it can cut fuel use of these ships 20%.

There is a lot going on that is huge and positive - this article has a tone of "give up it won't matter" and "the problem is too complex we cannot fix/change it". Really? How about a $10,000 vertical shaft wind turbine for my house that also charges a Think City electric car? Power my house, power my car. Yahtzee. Was that so hard?
Posted by:Marc317April 23, 2008 8:57:06 PMRespond ^
The Troll is not only a historian, he is an inventor and designer. The Troll invented Hybrid auto-motion in 1981 and in case anyone doubts this point, the Trolls 1981 plans remain far better then today's Hybrid drives. The car industry will likely not catch up to the Troll's 1981 design for another 20 years, (if we have that long). The Troll also worked with an MIT Auto Engineering professor (in the 1990's) in his development of a completely new energy science known as: "Molecular Adhesion", Anyone heard of it? Didn't think so. And for one reason:
The value of the US Dollar and hence, the ability of the US Treasury to sell T-Bills is directly tied to the price and dependence on oil, since oil is traded in US Dollars. I will not ramble over the details herein. I will summarize:
1. We can't disengage ourselves from mid-east oil because we are--and have always been the "pushers".
2. Abundant existing technology exists to cut our use of raw energy and thus, also cut our inflation rate and pollution footprint. We have been sidelining such technology for decades for political reasons and we still do.
3. Lastly, if a person wants to do something within their power, stop using animal products, as such are highly consumptive of resources, including energy and very inefficient and polluting. If you don't, please don't opine over our total helplessness, or, how the 'Nazi-Jews' are controlling the Arab royal families.
Posted by:TrollsteinApril 24, 2008 2:45:35 AMRespond ^
This is the second time I have asked this question but here it goes again....when exactly did the NSA or CIA co-opt MotherJones??
This is pure propoganda and has more fallacious arguments than Swiss cheese has holes. I am more and more disgusted by MJ and regret the hundreds of dollars I have sent in years past as donations.
Posted by:DougApril 24, 2008 6:44:37 AMRespond ^
I remember seeing a TV documentary that looked at sources of renewable energy - wind, solar, sea waves, sea temperature gradients, etc. Unless things have changed in the last few years, per the documentary, all of the effort/equipment to harvest the free fuel required more energy to make than would be paid back in the system's useful life.
Posted by:NCApril 24, 2008 7:04:41 AMRespond ^
Energy independence is possible, but not highly probable in the near future. First and foremost, too many vested interests are intent on wringing the last drops of capital from the energy dependent consuming public. Secondly, much of the technology needed to smooth the transition is either far from ready for prime time or still theoretical. Third, a great deal of investment and research energy are being squandered on harmful technologies like biofuel, which has already begun to wreak economic havoc and let loose the dogs of war (the global food crisis).

Energy independence is not only desirable, it's essential for the survival of human civilization. What would we do if the lights go out? James Kunstler, a periodic Mother Jones contributor, has some ideas that make sense. We need to re-engineer our societal infrastructure so as to reduce our energy needs to sustainable levels. It means the rebirth of the small town and cottage industry versus mega-corporations. Reduce overall consumption and then sources like solar, wind, geothermal, and hydroelectric might have a chance to cope. Stop wasting money, time, and food on biofuel and spend it on improving storage battery technology. Stop playing Russian Roulette with nuclear fission. Reduce the rate of consumption of fossil fuels so we can stop choking on the exhaust and prolong their availability until the gordian knot of sustainable fusion can be unravelled.
Posted by:JimApril 24, 2008 8:19:54 AMRespond ^
NC:
Today, a small, basic windmill costs $10,000 and produces about $400.00/month in electrical output, from a reasonable spot--that meets the min. req. of wind speed.
Numerous other technologies exist, such as tide, wave, solar and many others, which are clean and efficient. If MJ would allow me, I could post an expired patent, which can be added to any car for about $65.00 in parts and consumes a small amount of Marvel mystery oil, to significantly boost mileage and cut emmissions. A similar concept, using much more elaborate (and expensive) parts is linked below in a video:
http://dutman.vo.llnwd.net/o15/piccwin/piccwinlo.wmv
The above linked invention does produce far better results.
PS} about 15 years ago, Firestone purchased the patent re: the Marvel approach and did nothing with it.
Posted by:TrollsteinApril 24, 2008 9:24:05 AMRespond ^
I thought the article was very well written and informative, and obviously based on extensive research and interviews with knowledgeable people in various related fields of expertise. Are any of you people one of them? Most of the comments I see here are from people who SEEM to know better than the author. Well, why don't you all get together and fix the rest of us up?
Posted by:John WolforthApril 24, 2008 9:41:52 AMRespond ^
The author of this piece has obviously overlooked some key points: electric vehicles. By generating electricity using solar, wind, geothermal, hydroelectric, natural gas, and coal, we could dramatically cut our need for petroleum and perhaps in the least limit our imports to western hemisphere sources (assuming Chavez is a fleeting issue). What has to change is American greed and need for power. We want 0-60 in 3 seconds, V8's or more, the biggest beasty on the road, and good gas mileage to boot. It is disturbingly selfish and an example of a highly distorted American dream. I want something perhaps as equally selfish: a largely (50% or more) renewable electricity supply, hybrid and electric technology, massive Iraq-style funding on nuclear fusion, solar, and wind power, and coal (using CO2 collection procedures). I am unsure how much these changes will cut our consumption of petroleum, but the fact remains that the supply is limited, and we must kick the habit WITHOUT dwindling the world food supply (ignorant ethanol).
Posted by:MarkApril 24, 2008 10:24:20 AMRespond ^
SUGAR CANE, ALGAE OIL, SUNFLOWER OIL, CANOLA OIL, are all alternative fuel options. Why use food for energy when it has a long-term affect on supply and demand across all markets? Wheat, rice, etc. all go up. Use a product that people do not eat and can be grown in abundance.
Posted by:Super SmoothApril 24, 2008 12:22:17 PMRespond ^
Here in Minnesota, wind power is gearing up very fast. I think it will be successful far faster than the writer thinks.

Additionally, small windmills and solar arrays on homes, coupled with conservation, could possibly power many individual structures. The problem still is, it is not affordable...yet, for typical home owners or even on apartment buildings.
Posted by:ElydogApril 24, 2008 12:59:21 PMRespond ^
One of the most interesting and perhaps, practical proposals came from the Prime Minister of India a few years ago, mirroring studies from the IIT (India Institute of Technology):
Helium-3
This isotope is almost no-existent on earth but is abundant on the moon. The P.M. was issuing an invitation to other nations for collaboration. I have not studied this theory closely but as far as I am concerned, if it came out of IIT, I presume it is valid until proven otherwise. The H-3 allows fusion at controllable temps and hospitable conditions. A suitcase size container of the stuff is theorized to allow for the production enough electrical power for the entire USA for 1-month, with very minimal pollution or danger and no toxic residuals.
He was ignored. The Hindis are always ignored. Shame, they are very smart and capable scientists.
Posted by:TrollsteinApril 24, 2008 5:15:47 PMRespond ^
It is time for a Manhattan-style project to create high-efficiency batteries. Current research is pointing towards a device called an hyper-capacitor. This device charges quickly like the capacitor associated with your camera flash but, rather than discharge its entire energy charge in a burst, is capable of 'trickling' the charge over an extended period. Current plans call for these devices to be put in laptops and cellphones with 6 to 10 hour useful charges before needing a 30 second recharge. We should consider scaled up versions for our railroads.

Already operating with electric motors, developing hyper-capacitors capable of pulling 150 loaded cars for 600 miles before being recharged would set the standard for lesser applications like cars and trucks.

Recharging in less than 5 minutes for automotive applications would be comparable to a gasoline refuel. A range of 400 to 600 miles would kill the gasoline and diesel engine deader than Elvis. And the infrastructure for energy delivery is all but in place as you read this.

Look under the hood of your car. Except for the a/c every appliance is electric and runs off the alternator. With high efficiency hyper-capacitors (or a battery equivalent) even gas powered cars and trucks could be converted with relative ease and not unreasonable expense. Witness the tinkerers that are converting gas powered cars today. All they lack is a high-energy density power source like these hyper capacitors.

To do it right, though, will require an expansion of our nuclear power facilities to truly reap the carbon load reductions and get out from under the boot of the oil barons. As problematic as it may be to deal with the spent fuel, we are faced with two stark choices: We can continue to dump millions of tons of carbon, ash and other pollutants into the atmosphere with all that this dismal future portends or we can continue to store the very small amount of detritus of the fission process as we develop a new generation of reactor that consumes the fuel entirely, including the daughter radionuclides that complicate the long-term storage of the spent fuel.

We are going to an all-electric future whether we realize it or not. We'd best get started.

Posted by:FrankApril 24, 2008 8:27:24 PMRespond ^
It seems one of the most effective ways of limiting resource use is to limit population growth. This is not to say that we should start culling the human population, but possibly give incentives to individuals who limit the number of offspring they have. The more consumers we keep popping out, the more resources we use plain and simple. As for the idea that we can come up with technological fixes to our problems - nonsense. All technologies take large inputs of fossil fuels and water to produce. These electric or hybrid cars everyone seems to think will save us are simply not as green as they make themselves out to be. There is no such thing as "green technology." In order to even produce solar cells or wind turbines requires fossil fuel derived energy. It seems the only real possible solution would be to think smaller and simpler, conserve and be more energy efficient, and start now to slow down population growth. I agree with the author that the only way to achieve anything is to work globally to win over the minds of the global population. This would mean vast educational efforts.
Posted by:NickApril 25, 2008 1:00:33 PMRespond ^
I also agree with Ronald that cutting meat consumption is a great way to cut oil and water consumption. It is quite simple. Stop using food grown to feed domestic livestock to then eat yourself. Grow the food and eat it yourself. Plus more land has to be clear to raise the cattle and grow the feed than to just eat the feed or other crop that we find desirable. Food should be grown instead of lawns as lawns require the use of pesticides and fertilizers and exacerbates soil erosion. Permaculture is another promising field of work as it rejects energy intensive mono cropping and substitutes it for crop associations that are synergistic in nature and mimics Nature.
Posted by:NickApril 25, 2008 1:17:22 PMRespond ^
What is needed is energy that is "reasonably affordable"... And let's not sugarcoat it.

MJ is falling into a major MYTH! Energy, when costs are fully accounted, can not be cheap. Maintaining cheap energy is only possible at the expense of future generations and should be considered a crime against humanity. The record of human history is that those who control societies have often been prepared see the whole of society plunge into disastrous chaos and collapse rather than accept change that undermined their power. The extraordinarily urgent problems of peak oil, global warming and the failure of the American Government have resulted in an unusual crisis. Our government has become destructive of the public’s right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. It is now necessary to alter the systems of government.

We need to create a ‘Climate Corp' based on home energy audits. We need local food production, a redistribution of wealth and technology transfers, land conservation and reforestation, reform in government, media and education, etc. (See: Rio Declaration for sustainable development.) We need a sustainable and egalitarian society. And we need immediate action to prevent widespread suffering and violence.
Posted by:PubliusApril 25, 2008 2:07:13 PMRespond ^
Hemp
Posted by:TomkkeApril 25, 2008 2:44:34 PMRespond ^
Hey, when did you put the Grinch on staff?

Why are we so attached to the notion that power has to be generated in some centralized, industrialized fashion? Since we're willing to deficit-spend like there's no tomorrow, I say, Take a month of Iraq funding, about $50 billion, and simply equip every household in the US with a grid-tied, battery-backed-up solar power system, including direct solar hot-water/heat (it's why God made roofs), and an electric car, using what you can buy right now. (If my PV system works in the deep woods of coastal Washington, I know yours will do better.)

Tax gas to $10 a gallon or more, so we'll quit mistaking oil for food -- it's what we need to make useful plastics, drugs, and so on. Create economic incentives to use rail, for freight and travel, and modernize our rail system. Then we'll have the elbow room to start having defeatist but interesting philosophical discussions like this one.
Posted by:westomoonApril 25, 2008 4:49:26 PMRespond ^
Woops, sorry! I meant "quit mistaking oil for fuel", not food.

Got a little muddled, with us mistaking food for fuel and all...
Posted by:westomoonApril 25, 2008 4:52:25 PMRespond ^
This is one of the most idiotic articles I've ever read. I had to stop reading after a while. If I get this right, the author's point is that we really really depend on oil & coal, and trying to get off it is really really hard, and the technologies we have right now are not silver bullets, conservation alone won't do it, and we're really fumbling around right now trying to become "energy independent", so.... give up? The idea that this was going to be easy is asanine. We'll go through some growing pains, but we will get off oil & coal, not because we want to, but because we have to. It's that simple. Truly an idiotic article.
Posted by:DuhApril 25, 2008 5:06:22 PMRespond ^
". . .instead, our demand reductions will be incremental and thus effectively canceled out by the expected demand growth in other, less efficiency-minded

countries like China. Berkeley's Borenstein, for example, estimates that the 3.6 million barrels the United States would save by 2030 under the 2007 energy

bill will be more than offset by growth in demand elsewhere."

So what does this have to do with "energy security?" If China and India etc. etc. are burning more than we save with the 2007 energy bill -- who will pay for

it when the oil starts trickling out rather than gushing (as the "peak oil" theory or reality or whatever predicts)? Well, the countries that haven't embraced

efficiency. If on the other hand, we have managed to become 10 times more energy efficient, that will be that much more security for us. But if we remain

an island of wasteful technology and wasteful habits, it will be us who pay -- as we are already doing at the pump. To try to separate "security" from

independence, as the article tries to do, doesn't make a bit of sense (even though it does have many good points).

Here are some interesting "can-do" realities that ignore all this pessimism in the article:

Denmark -- that little country in Europe -- already gets 20 to 30% (depending on wind speed) of their energy from wind.

Sweden uses farm bio-waste as a substitute for coal. Both their coal and biowaste generating facilities are nearly 90% efficient (as opposed to Britain's,

whose antiquated coal-fired plants are only around 30% efficient).

Holland has been sequestering their C02 emissions from coal plants and channeling them to greenhouses where the C02 acts as a "fertilizer" (everyone

knows CO2 is healthy for plants, of course). In addition, the Dutch have for years been channeling the heat from the coal-burning process to heat houses

(and the aforementioned greenhouses that grow food)-- the heat that is normally wasted -- and in doing so they have increased the overall efficiency of their

coal plants by 50%.

(See the 18 minutes film below from Greenpeace UK, and see how the Europeans have slashed their CO2 emissions without compromising their comforts!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klooRS-Jjyo

Twenty two years ago a refrigerator company began business whose unit was (at the time) 10 times more efficient than the average one being sold by GE,

Whirlpool etc., and that this was accomplished primarily by simply putting the compressor on top of the unit, and making the walls thicker and better insulated.

Even today this refrigerator (the Sunfrost) is still more efficient than most other models, although federal regulations that began in 1991 have forced other

manufacturers to slowly increase their efficiency. At present, the Sunfrost is perhaps only 1/2 to 1/4 more efficient than the other best Energy-Star rated

models.

There are so many examples of how America could slash its wasteful habits without much effort -- but cynicism and just plain stupidity are preventing it from

doing so. Everything from graywater systems for houses and catching rainwater and storing it, or removing building code limitations on solar panel

installations and streamlining the process, to building plug-in hybrids -- are all still meeting extreme resistence in this country -- and for who or what? To give

you a small hint: When Bechtel took over Ecuador's water system awhile back (before they were mercifully kicked out), one of the stipulations that they

managed to get the government to agree to before they took the reins from the government utility was that ALL RAINWATER COLLECTION be made

ILLEGAL in Ecuador! Another example: here in Alabama, to get a grid-tie system, one has to pay Alabama Power's (a Southern Company subsidiary)

insurance company $5000.00 a year (no matter how small the system is) in case the grid-tie inverter malfunctions and allows solar panel produced power to

flow back into the grid during a power outage. This law exists despite the fact that grid-tie inverter technology that is used worldwide today is almost

perfectly reliable at cutting all power flow during such outages, as has been shown again and again and again. And yet another example: some states are

trying to make it ILLEGAL to produce one's own biodiesel.

The point is that being self-sufficient is the LAST thing that the Fortune 500 companies want us to be. I agree with those that this author is probably

inadvertantly promoting the agenda of said power structures.
Posted by:brainsynchronyApril 25, 2008 7:04:11 PMRespond ^
I incorrectly stated, "Sweden uses farm bio-waste as a substitute for coal. Both their coal and biowaste generating facilities are nearly 90% efficient"

The correct country is Denmark, the same one with so many wind turbines.
Posted by:brainsynchronyApril 25, 2008 7:28:35 PMRespond ^
Sadly there is a logic to your artical and I agree with it. So what do we do?.
Ok energy independance is not possible for the foreseeable future. But changing the way that current energy sources is used is possible. A shift in the concept that every American should own a car can be changed to you get a permit to own a car if you can demonstrate need in business or occupation. Tear down a lane on every freeway in America, force the building of massive commuter rail systems across the nation. We are already in debt-we might as well do it right and at least build an infrastucture for the future. This would help the economy fdr style with an immediate benifit of jobs to help stimulate the economy. The trolley systems of days past were torn down for the economic benifit of The auto industry . Simply shift back to a more logical transportation system and we save gas, help the mother nature, create jobs. And can use tech improvements in train speeds, and relability. Start with the cities and spread outward. At the current rate of spiral in gasoline prices sub divisions are doomed anyway. At $7 a gallon projected in 5 years-you might as well lease a penthouse suite downtown. Business could be protected by allowing the auto manufacturers to assume production and implementaion of the rail systems. An entire economy could be created with the production of replacemenrt parts for the rail systems. Certainly some jobs will be lost. But it beats dying from co2 emmisions and is one step closer to energy independance.
Posted by:Gary GraefenApril 25, 2008 9:09:09 PMRespond ^
This fear that bio-fuels are eating up the planet's food supply needs to be tempered with a little reality. First off, the greatest threat to the planet and global climate change that no one seems to want to talk about is there are too many people using up more and more resources and producing more and more waste. We must reverse population growth to save the eco-system, habitat for other sentient beings and reduce consumption of everything and its waste products. A second reality is that one single pound of meat requires 10 lbs of grain and 2500 gallons of water to produce (or 55 square feet of rain forest). 70% of the grain and 1/2 the water used in the US are used to raise livestock for slaughter. By the way, 2500 gallons of water is more than a person uses in a year for showers! So becoming vegans is a lot more reasonable & important than just to stop the suffering of other sentient beings - it is about saving our own lives.
Posted by:FreethinkerApril 26, 2008 1:29:09 AMRespond ^
With all that you did not address wind, solar, geothermal etc. as a way of getting basically free energy to produce hydrogen whatever. What if we had invested all the money from Iraq into wind and solar? It seems to me if it doesn't solve the problem, it could sure help.
Posted by:neil RedlienApril 26, 2008 7:26:34 AMRespond ^
I thought the piece was well written and thoughtful, it delivers a hard message to people, the replies and comments it generated are notable as well…the consensus is we have a global problem and it will require a global solution…I hope that after the dialog about these issues dims the collective knowledge and efforts of us all prevail and the next generation forgives our waste. Issues such as over population or realities that the American dream we have enjoyed if enjoyed my all on this planet will kill it need hard examination.

All people will have to do with less, and that means less of everything, the extravagances of the wealthy, or governments and collective ignorance will kill all our futures. The hard lesson is to not get mad at our issues, rather lets get smart in our approaches to it, the adult thing is to examine ourselves as a people in the mirror of truth and see the image of the enemy…Ourselves. I am deeply worried at the loss of fisheries, starvation in third world nations, and a rush to nuclear weapons by them, global warming and the populations a rising sea level will displace…Oil will not be the only issue in our futures.

An asteroid which is approaching our planet may make mute all of this and it will make environmental issues an academic only argument or its approach may wake us up to the fragile commonality of us all. I am shocked at the lack of press here about it.

We still argue about God/Goddess insanely and really believe what we see in our dramatic fantasies played on various electronic stages are real…This is a huge problem because the real resources we waste are in our minds and collective energy to solve any of our problems.

I agree that any candidate in any election is going to fall short…Any one person regardless their genius is a small part of the solution…I think motivational leaders who inspire gifted men and women to dare theses issues may rally the collective all we can be and that would do more than the political policy maker ever could.

We must stop waiting for the next invention…That was for our fathers and they are gone, they brought us to this brink in what they thought was a progressive strategy and they will not pay the price we their children will. This succeeding generation inherits the issues they gave us as an inheritance with its bills due beginning today. I suggest we start bargaining with each other as a planet about what is the minimum each of us needs to live not argue how some of us are going to keep the past 100 year party going. This is a numbers issue, pretty cut and dry and religion, or economics, and social consciousness’ are big players today that need to be set aside.

It would be wise to consider ourselves first human beings and citizens of planet Earth before we adopt other titles of citizenship or affiliations.

I wish us all good luck.
Posted by:Harry YoungApril 26, 2008 7:30:58 AMRespond ^
A great article with some very real thinking worth pursuing .There are solutions to ease the energy pain such as development of algae as a source of energy independence .India has 16,000 six passenger taxi cabs under a test running on compressed air.As long as our country has the Hummer Brain set running Washington, D.C .and the oil interests running our country we'll suffer from these dimwitted, simple-minded block heads . It's about time we started bootlegging fuel efficient vehicles into our country as was done with liquor and now with drugs .Let them put us in jail for owning a fuel efficient auto .We'll drive the bureaucracy crazy .
Posted by:Chuck MehanApril 26, 2008 11:32:56 AMRespond ^
Yes we can! We are retired and living off the grid. Totally solar. Well water. Internet but no phones except Skype. Utility bills...Hughes.net and DISH...that's it! Much of our food comes from our garden and the sea. Now all we need is a car that get 100mpg. We're not sending our children nor grandchildren off to fight for oil. We have to change the way we live..now.
It is possible today to dramatically cut your carbon footprint.

Peace

Peter and Linda
Posted by:Peter E.April 26, 2008 12:29:01 PMRespond ^
Your article states that it takes "vast amounts of land" for wind power, when the reality is that off shore wind platforms do not, and are being blocked by our own Senate because of aesthetic reasons.
You also failed to mention in your comparison of fuels, and how much energy it takes to produce them, the gazillion to one ratio of just putting a fifty gallon drum on every home in the sun belt to pre-heat water
Posted by:rick barrengerApril 26, 2008 2:36:57 PMRespond ^
Well, you completely depressed me, and make me feel it's hopeless if you are even close to being right. As a person in his fifties, i will be long dead before any significant progress is made so there's no point in me doing anything to try and help. But instead of believing you, opening up my wrists and drying up and blowing away, maybe i will try anyway. Thanks for the "cheer up", bbbllliiiii!
Posted by:williamApril 26, 2008 8:07:48 PMRespond ^
I had planned to write at length regarding the illogical aspects of this preposterous article, but others before me have done a solid job of pointing them out.

Suffice it to say that Roberts' argument presents itself as if oil will be unlimited, despite admitting (only in passing, as if it doesn’t matter) that it is, in fact, a finite resource. But the overriding shortsightedness of Roberts’ argument here is his apparent postulation that any policy for energy independence would necessarily entail ceasing oil use immediately and completely. It is a classic “straw man” fallacy that also incorporates the fallacies of “false dilemma” and “circular reasoning”.

I find it highly questionable that this poor reasoning has been given a voice on MotherJones. Wha’sup widat?
Posted by:rixhex56April 27, 2008 12:25:27 PMRespond ^
This is generally true now, but had we gone to work on this thirty years ago, it would not be.. We have waited far too long to make any significant changes. Mainstream alternatives like hydrogen and bio are simply energy losers, not gainers. Looking back a hundred years, we make huge mistakes when we failed to listen to Tesla... then we had the answers!!!
Posted by:JimApril 27, 2008 5:26:02 PMRespond ^
This article is a mix of false information, omitted information, and lack of knowledge. The people who say it can’t be done should not interrupt the ones who are diligently doing it. We are on the road to energy independence. And we will achieve it sooner than you think.
Posted by:Jeff BakerApril 28, 2008 5:35:21 AMRespond ^
This article is a load of crap. Is this Mother Jones or Mother Goose? Seriously. We CAN be energy INDEPENDANT or at the very least, have to purchase some energy from Canada & Mexico very easily. Being a mechanical engineer, I can tell you for certain that at current cost, we could have fitted every home in the US with solar and/or wind power with the money we're spending in Iraq. At current $ of $10K/KW & assuming 100mil homes, & avg usage of 2.5KW/mo, the cost comes out to $2.5trillion & everyone is 'off the grid' except business/industry who could be given incentives to do it on their own (the gov't could surely negotiate reduced cost due to size of project). For those that need more energy, they'd be happy to find that fossil fuel costs had plummeted. NOW you can talk about your electric cars! And, don't forget about all of the jobs that would be created to complete this project within a 10yr time-span! It's not about 'can' we do it, it's about 'will' we do it as in all we're lacking is the will, not the means. It's a choice people. Choose establishment picked candidates & you'll get the status quo. Pick leaders who aren't slaves to the money changers & you can have a whole new, clean, sustainable, peacable existence. Or, do as the author describes & embrace your gluttony.
Posted by:fattkiddApril 28, 2008 6:36:35 AMRespond ^
Our collective addiction to oil is at the root of at least six fundamental issues that are adversely affecting our nation and indeed, the entire planet: corporate- driven globalization, global warming, poverty, war, terrorism, and the undue influence of money on the political process. --"The world's supply of recoverable oil is fast running out. An energy policy (or the lack of one) that leaves us with no alternative but swilling more oil is suicidally stupid."
Posted by:EV RiderApril 28, 2008 7:42:00 AMRespond ^
I may have missed it but I didn't read anyone suggesting that we take the first and immediate step on gas conservation by reducing highway speed max to 55 or 60mph (most people seem to drive 75) and reduce gallonage my at least 10% (not to mention to increase safety.
Posted by:PaGearyApril 28, 2008 12:10:36 PMRespond ^
The author has a shallow understanding of alternative fuels.

The mindset that we need 2 or 3 major alternatives to petro-fuel is a problem. Obviously it's got to be a lot of different energy-sources that have to pinch-hit. Monocultures of any type (farming, petro-dependency, one-dimensional stock portfolios, etc.) are incredibly vulnerable while diversity creates greater stability.

I'm having a serious problem with why biodiesel made from discarded restaurant oil is getting harder and harder to get, while that made from new veggie oil (which is driving food prices up) is getting ubiquitous.

There are SO many energy sources that we're simply throwing away. Scientists have come up with ways to use the POLLUTING particles from coal exhaust for energy. They've found ways to use (as fuel) the glycerin that comes out of oils in making biodiesel.

When we have very diverse sources of energy, we don't have to sweat it when one or even a handful of those energy sources falters. We weren't meant to live in a one-energy-source-fits-all world. Nature's not set up that way--and for good reason.
Posted by:SunApril 29, 2008 11:38:31 PMRespond ^
Mother Jones is giving too much credence to the naysayers and the oil lobby, I think.
1. Re-see "Who killed the electric car?" for instance. The G.M. EV1 got 60-120 miles per charge, had good performance and all the amenities of a standard passenger car. When G.M. forcibly recalled the all-leased cars, people literally laid down in their driveways to prevent it. G.M. sold the technology to Chevron (as I recall), who buried the technology, and now has the nerve to tell us that the promissed chevy Volt, which gets less than 50 miles per charge is innovative. The EV1 came out in 1996!!!
2. Pay attention to what's happening out West as every nook and cranny is drilled for oil. Ranchers are teaming up with environmentalists as their land is destroyed by pollution. Trade oil wells for Wind Turbines!
3. Hard to see why Paul Roberts thinks we can't go green; Germany, France and SPain are already a long way there as even he admits. We have more windy, empty plains, more sun, more steelworkers who need jobs. What kinid of country do we want?
Posted by:Scott BakerApril 30, 2008 11:07:44 AMRespond ^
Oh, BTW, Grist published the good news this week -- a Norwegian company is making the electric car GM thought it had killed. It's expected to start US marketing in California next year. Check it out at http://www.think.no/think/content/view/full/290 and/or http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/4/21/173048/493?source=weekly
Posted by:westomoonMay 1, 2008 10:07:18 AMRespond ^
How come we aren't stressing the need for conservation a way out of this quagmire? Changing lightbulbs is one thing, but removing weight from car trunks could save many thousands of barrels of oil per day. Also, if Americans each lose one pound of excees weight each week the untold millions of gallons used to transport said weight would then be unnecessary. I understand the inherent drawbacks in trying to change peoples proclivities towards conspicuous consumption. But we should be concentrating on the "doable" as opposed to the unattainable. As for nuclear, France reprocesses most of their nuclear waste back into fuel. Also promising is biofuel from algae! Algae producec 10 time more biofuel per acre than corn ethanol and take no arable land out of production for crops we need mfor food production. There's more tha a few other approaches. I believe we will eventually wind up with a combination of technologies including: wind, solar, wave, tide and hydro power. That is if we can resist the entrenched "powers-that-be".
Posted by:Kevin SmithMay 2, 2008 6:29:16 AMRespond ^
GREAT article. Reality bites, doesn't it?

Looks like the only solution is less people.

In the end, people will adapt to whatever life throws at them. As most people are hopeless optimists, the result is what you see right now.
Posted by:JohnMay 2, 2008 10:56:33 AMRespond ^
one of the most realistic articles written about the upcoming or should we say present energy crisis
Posted by:robertMay 2, 2008 1:26:24 PMRespond ^
you really have no idea of what you are talking about, if we all as Americans do our part to help eliminate energy independence our grandsons wont have to worry about our problems. Lets face it Nixon did not do anything and look at where we are standing now; we must take action.
Posted by:MIKEMay 4, 2008 2:23:07 AMRespond ^
Several recent news articles on new energy
technologies look promising...lets hope they pan out
1. Sunrgi has announced a new solar energy
technology which supposedly will produce electricity at a wholesale price of $.05 per kwh...
2. Coskata has announced a cellulostic
ethanol process that will produce a
gallon of ethanol for $1.00...
Posted by:KirkMay 6, 2008 7:50:18 AMRespond ^
Clearly Jonathon S does not know much about hydrogen production as approximately 95% is made from natural gas and heat with possibly 5% made by electrolysis.

Nick on the other hand has hit the nail on the head with his revolutionary concept of fewer humans. One caveat I would add is to enforce rather than encourage fewer human births.
Posted by:KenMay 7, 2008 5:06:08 AMRespond ^
"Nuclear energy is steeped in safety and security concerns."

That's it? Write off nuclear with one sentence? It's the BEST ALTERNATIVE we've got, and it IS SAFE when done properly.

Compared to nuclear energy, food riots are LESS SAFE, pure oil dependence is LESS SAFE. And planting sugar cane is only a drop in the bucket compared to nuclear.

Posted by:chrisflowMay 8, 2008 9:24:33 AMRespond ^
What about building weapons of Mass Transportation?
Our “addiction to oil” is mostly due to our addiction to the automobile. You can’t talk about energy security without addressing mass transportation as part of the solution. As resident of Los Angeles, I would gladly jump on an intelligently designed rail or subway system but one does not exist here. When oil hits $200 per barrel, a lot of folks like me will be wishing that one did. After 9/11, Bush should have committed building a nationwide mass transportation system. Then he could have told us to go shopping. When gas rises to $7 per gallon, perhaps as soon as next year, no one will be able to afford to go on a shopping trip. Bye, bye consumer economy! Hello food lines!
Posted by:David CumminsMay 9, 2008 8:57:35 AMRespond ^
There is one easy way for people to prove their statements. If they think it is so darned easy to create a new energy source, then let them get some venture capital and actually produce it and sell it. This "pie-in-the-sky" mentality is what got us in this mess. 95% of the world's energy use is fossil fuels, and if anyone had an easy way, they would be doing it. Nuclear is no panacea, but it is one of the better choices, and we better get used to the fact that we'll have to use almost every viable method to produce/conserve energy for the forseeable future, unless there is a breakthrough in fusion research, or something like that.
Posted by:TimMay 14, 2008 4:31:09 PMRespond ^
SAY GOODBYE TO CAFE STANDARDS
It is time to scrap CAFE. There are too many loopholes. What we need instead, or at least in addition to CAFE, is a "drag coefficient" standard. It may be upsetting to some car enthusiats because their favorite car may become less pleasing to the eye. But when cars are built to look more like airplanes, mpg can shoot up to 300+mpg. When combined with hybrid plug in technology, the average driver can complete the daily commute without using a drop of gasoline. Aptera in Carlsbad, CA is doing it already. Why isn't Detroit??
Posted by:shane algarinMay 16, 2008 5:36:45 PMRespond ^
"What about building weapons of Mass Transportation?
Our “addiction to oil” is mostly due to our addiction to the automobile. You can’t talk about energy security without addressing mass transportation as part of the solution. As resident of Los Angeles, I would gladly jump on an intelligently designed rail or subway system but one does not exist here. When oil hits $200 per barrel, a lot of folks like me will be wishing that one did. After 9/11, Bush should have committed building a nationwide mass transportation system. Then he could have told us to go shopping. When gas rises to $7 per gallon, perhaps as soon as next year, no one will be able to afford to go on a shopping trip. Bye, bye consumer economy! Hello food lines!

Posted by:David Cummins May 9, 2008 8:57:35 AM"

Mr. Cummins, we all don't live in cities like New York, Chicago, or Philadelphia. Public transportation would not work in many parts of America because we are spread out. Also, who says we must give up our love of the Automobile? It's crazy that this country is becoming a Socialist Utopia where a very small group can use the power of the Federal Government to tell people what they can and cannot do. To paraphrase Charlton Heston "You will have to take my car from my cold, dead hands!" I have a idea! Any President, Senator or Representative who proposes the Federal Government tell people what they will or will not drive should be the first one to have his or her cars taken away! I also think that the current situation with gas prices comes from a Congress that refuses to do the logical thing and open up more areas in this country for exploration for conventional energy sources as well as promoting the building of Nuclear Power Plants. We are literally sitting on natural resources that could greatly reduce our dependence on foreign sources of oil if only we would open them up. One more point, do you realize how long it takes to build Public transportation? It can take decades to build the kind of things you are talking about. Why do you think that rail companies no longer build new rail routes, it's simple to build a new route can take a decade or more before it's open.
Posted by:Reality CheckerMay 17, 2008 5:01:56 PMRespond ^
"What about building weapons of Mass Transportation?
Our “addiction to oil” is mostly due to our addiction to the automobile. You can’t talk about energy security without addressing mass transportation as part of the solution. As resident of Los Angeles, I would gladly jump on an intelligently designed rail or subway system but one does not exist here. When oil hits $200 per barrel, a lot of folks like me will be wishing that one did. After 9/11, Bush should have committed building a nationwide mass transportation system. Then he could have told us to go shopping. When gas rises to $7 per gallon, perhaps as soon as next year, no one will be able to afford to go on a shopping trip. Bye, bye consumer economy! Hello food lines!

Posted by:David Cummins May 9, 2008 8:57:35 AM"

Mr. Cummins, we all don't live in cities like New York, Chicago, or Philadelphia. Public transportation would not work in many parts of America because we are spread out. Also, who says we must give up our love of the Automobile? It's crazy that this country is becoming a Socialist Utopia where a very small group can use the power of the Federal Government to tell people what they can and cannot do. To paraphrase Charlton Heston "You will have to take my car from my cold, dead hands!" I have a idea! Any President, Senator or Representative who proposes the Federal Government tell people what they will or will not drive should be the first one to have his or her cars taken away! I also think that the current situation with gas prices comes from a Congress that refuses to do the logical thing and open up more areas in this country for exploration for conventional energy sources as well as promoting the building of Nuclear Power Plants. We are literally sitting on natural resources that could greatly reduce our dependence on foreign sources of oil if only we would open them up. One more point, do you realize how long it takes to build Public transportation? It can take decades to build the kind of things you are talking about. Why do you think that rail companies no longer build new rail routes, it's simple to build a new route can take a decade or more before it's open.
Posted by:Reality CheckerMay 17, 2008 5:01:57 PMRespond ^
If the US Postal Service in 1974 had taken GE Co proposal to start a program to switch local postal vehicals to electric we would have had a 34 year head start on electric vehicals.
Posted by:JohnMay 17, 2008 11:08:42 PMRespond ^
How could you think of publishing "Seven Myths" so soon after Dr. Robert Zubrin published the book "Energy Victory" in which he shows simple and practical path to exclude imported oil. If you type his name into Google, you will find a site that will play an hour long video from C-Span that shows exactly how we can win this victory. Zubrin is one of the smartest people I've ever read.
Hint: Require all cars sold in usa to be flex fuel (including both methane and ethanol). At $4 per gallon there will be a stampede to by, at first ethanol (made from food ... a bad idea) but subsequently even cheaper methanol (made from waste and/or celulose. See the film from C-Span, then buy the book from Amazon and see how this really works.
Posted by:Fred MooreMay 19, 2008 7:08:05 PMRespond ^
The correct website for Dr Zubrin's book "Energy Victory" is:
www.energyvictory.net
Sorry for the confusion
Posted by:Fred MooreMay 19, 2008 7:18:49 PMRespond ^
First of all, global warming is real but it is not anthropogenic. The "new" emphasis on co2 is a disastrous & stupid distraction from the real "old-fashioned" problems like pollution and habitat destruction. But, Al Gore will get rich on the carbon cap schemes.
Greenies, wake the [deleted] up, and grow a brain. Global warming follows increased solar radiation, and THEN the Co2 rises. This explains the 200 year lag that discredits Uncle Al's position.
Posted by:RickyMay 21, 2008 7:20:35 PMRespond ^
It is amazing to me that none of these treatises by very bright folks will even acknowledge the fact that the only long term solution to sustain a standard of living (or even sustain civilization) is to reduce the world population.
Posted by:Charley HuppMay 28, 2008 8:31:03 PMRespond ^
You are the only one to this point that sees the essence of the problem - too many people.

Congratulations!
Posted by:Charley HuppMay 28, 2008 9:07:24 PMRespond ^
Congratulations.. one of the two I have read so far that sees the essence of the problem - too many people!
Posted by:Charley HuppMay 28, 2008 9:19:40 PMRespond ^
Congratulations. You are one of three I have read so far who see the essence of the problem - too many people

Congratulations! You are one of three I have read so far who see the essence of the problem - too many people!



Posted by:Charley HuppMay 28, 2008 9:36:03 PMRespond ^
I completely agree with Duh's comment. Just because energy independence is difficult to achieve and may never be total, does not mean that any movement in that direction is useless. I am an engineer, and all engineering solutions are a question of trade-offs = balancing many conflicting demands to give the optimal mix. The US should be less dependent on foreign energy supplies. Let's shift the mix of sources in that direction.
Posted by:MarcMay 30, 2008 9:45:18 PMRespond ^
While limiting population seems desirable, the terrible problem with that solution lies in the demographics necessary to support the increasingly older segment of our populace. Surely in our county we don't face the impossible situation of Japan in its trend toward a shrinking population that won't have enough workers to support those in retirement, but even at current rates there will be fewer active workers to support the retirees - and to pay down the massive debts amassed during our foreign adventures and addiction to grand spending plans for which we've refused to pay. Were it possible to encourage reductions in population, how would such a scheme begin to address the social welfare net for the aging - who've spent their funds on new SUVs and gasoline, and heating and air-conditioning expenses for their over-sized homes? And now, even those who live relatively simply will face higher costs for all the necessities . . . As structured, our society will need all the new souls we can muster in order to prop up the aging populace. Thus, we'll simply have to employ whatever means necessary to fuel the expansion, be it nuclear, or whatever.
Posted by:CraigJune 3, 2008 4:21:14 AMRespond ^
I think Mother Jones dropped the ball with this article. The entire article is written around these seven ideas and why they are wrong but much of the information is opinion and not factual. I really question the notion that reliable solar and wind are decades away. Spain has developed significant wind generating electricity infrastructure and has private companies opening wind turbine plants here in the U.S. (particularly in my state of Pennsylvania). Denmark has also developed wind generating electricity infrastructure and Germany has been aggressively pursuing solar. As these countries continue to pursue and invest in these technologies, the technology advances (recently one company based in the US has created solar panels that are 40% efficient, that is up from approximately 11%). There is no reason why the United States can not invest more into these alternatives, especially if we can afford to spend ridiculous sums of money on war. In some locations we already have invested in wind and solar alternatives, such as solar electric plants in California that use parabolic shaped mirrors to concentrate solar energy on pipes containing synthetic oil that is heated and used to boil water to turn turbines. Biofuels are another realistic option for solving or meeting some of the U.S. energy needs, but not all. Brazil is a fantastic example of biofuel production and innovation! The only difference between the U.S. and Brazil is that Brazil invested in this technology 30+ years ago but the U.S. is quickly closing the gap. Because of Brazil's development in this area they can meet almost all of their domestic transportation energy needs with bio-fuels and have saved $50 billion in oil imports over the last 20+ years. According to Amory Lovins's "Winning The Oil Endgame", Brazil is exporting their biofuels at $0.60 per gallon and the only thing keeping the U.S. from doing the same are the heavy farm subsidies (this keeps our exporting cost at about $1.50 per gallon). I am not even going to comment on all of the supposed myth's of energy independence. In the end Paul Roberts's article reads as though he wrote this to support his personal views and did not use accurate or comprehensive information but rather USA Today articles along with brief searches using Google. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing on the energy issues so long as you can back it up and from what I have read very little in this article is substantiated.
Posted by:Jules MJune 5, 2008 3:46:49 PMRespond ^
Our war for energy independence and economic growth

The US government and other governments are not serious about energy efficiency and renewable energy development and implementation – they are too busy playing politics and capitulating to the Oil Companies.
IT is time to get series to avert an economic catastrophe – I hope it is not too late
The world needs to invest $50 trillion in energy in coming decades, building some 1,400 nuclear power plants and vastly expanding wind power, solar power, geothermal energy in order to halve greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, according to an energy study released Friday.
The report by the Paris-based International Energy Agency envisions a